Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen on Tuesday did not dispute that President Trump suggested the U.S. should limit immigration from “shithole countries,” telling the Senate Judiciary Committee under oath that she “did not hear” the president say it. Nielsen was present along with seven lawmakers for a closed-door meeting on immigration policy last Thursday. “The conversation was very impassioned. I don’t dispute that the president was using tough language. Others in the room were also using tough language,” Nielsen said. Sens. Tom Cotton (R-AR) and David Perdue (R-GA) denied that Trump made the remark about non-white immigrants, while Sens. Dick Durbin (D-IL) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) have backed up the initial reporting on Trump’s comments.